Is ‘European Business Guide’ a scam? You, the great Googling public will decide..
…meanwhile, here’s some information to help you.
Confidence inspiring. NOT.
‘European Business Guide’ sends out a pdf offering you ‘free updating’ of your entry in their online directory of European Businesses. The idea is to make you think that entry in their ‘directory’ is free, whereas the small print on the form states that entry actually costs 990 euros a year (min 3 years and automatically extended year on year) while ‘updating’ (once you’ve been entered) is – amusingly – ‘free’.
This is an old but surprisingly successful scam that’s based on a simple principle: people are needy and careless. They want something for nothing. They’ll sign the form without seeing the small print, believing that they’re getting something for free. Then, if you bully people hard enough, a percentage of those people will pay you out of fear and/or shame.
Simples.
Anyway. Enough from me. Suffice to say there are many versions out there at the moment. Expo Guide, Word Business Directory, World Company Directory, World Business Register, European City Guide, Fairguide and many many more.
If you’ve started receiving demands because you filled in the form without reading the small print, then add your experience here by commenting. Search for my posts on ‘Expo Guide’ and read all the hundreds of comments there. Hopefully, they’re enough to reassure you not to pay.
PS – if we’ve saved you €980 or helped end your worries, please support our work by clicking through to our sponsor sites (under our picture on the right there –>). Thank you!
Im so glad I checked this lot out,usually a careful and sensible person ive had a lot of bad luck recently and was tempted to beleive this crap although all the time telling myself if it sems to good to be true it is. Another one id like to highlight is to be careful of horescopes….Ive fallen for that one feeling really low searching the net for other things an ad caught my eye to check my horoscope…within weeks im being bombarded with messages from a medium offers of setting spells to make my problems go away..I know all this sound to ridiculous for anyone to beleive but when you read the messages they are convincing and scary if you dont reply!!!Im not a stupid person and although ive not replied Ive been worried about the consequences some more vunerable people might be convinved to spend money that they dont have!!!!!
World Business Directory Scam trick to con business people who do not “Read the fine print” has tried to pressure me to pay and although I challange them to sue me they do not! Why? The would lose because they delibrately hide the charges for the so called service. Advice is do not pay them. Tell all you can or their deceitfull operation and tell your local fraud prevention agencies.
I laugh now at their bills, emails, collection agency demands.They have not proceeded with any legal action in two years and I bet they never will.
Cheers,
Joohn Brennan.
Australia.
“I laugh at their bills!”
You’re right they never will John. Good on ya mate
They Cheat me too. I am not paying.
I fell in the same trap. They sent me a scam and showed not clearly that it has to be paid a huge amount of Euros. It is funny that for a business procedure, when one requests a service, you send first Proforma Invoice or Tax Invoice on that customer accepts or declines the service. Wonderful is that the invoice is sent direct without statement of agreement.
I will pay when I am in the heaven
Hello,
I am also one of cheated.
From Czech Republic.
Hi Ondřej (I had to copy and paste your name as I have NO idea where that version of ‘r’ is on my keyboard) – welcome. Don’t pay, read all the comments.
Good plan Matthew but I don’t think they’ll be there to receive
Hi,
I’m pretty desperate, but not pay!!!
Hi Gabriela, don’t be desperate. There are many, many people here in your situation who haven’t paid and nothing bad has happened to them. Be strong and keep researching online
Same thing happens on me. Luckly, I find this website before paying.
I also fell for the scam. Someone suggested I sent in monopoly bills… I will keep an email trail of my communication with them and warn my colleagues to NOT fall into the same trap. I am just so upset I fell for them. Thank you for posting this info and all of the others’ comments.
You’re welcome Solange. I know you’re angry and frustrated, but all the evidence suggests NOT contacting them any more. Contact seems to fuel their ardour
i received their invoice.. T__T
what must i do next?
make cancelation?
need your suggestion.
thank you
wuland
indonesia
Hi, I already received a fax from them with new amounts to pay if payement not in time… I will not pay till last consequences, the little letters are not legal.
JM
Wuland – have replied to you by email. But same advice as I always give: don’t respond to them and DON’T pay a penny!
Our company is called Global Business Register Limited. We are legally registered in Ireland and our business involves the selling and distribution of official company information that is sourced from the national company registers around Europe. We are an official distributor for the EBR (European Business Register). EBR is an official EU organisation involved in the integration of business registers across Europe. (http://www.ebr.org)
We would wish to advise your readers that our company should not be confused with either World Company Register or World Business Directory or EU Business Directory. We have no association whatsoever with any of them and wish to clearly state that we do not condone in any way the activities of these organisations.
It is free to use our service to search for company information and should you wish to order an official document on a company there is a small fee associated with that. We do not offer to include any company in a directory and charge fee for it.
If anyone would like further information I would be very happy to help them with their query.
Hi Rob. It must drive you nuts that your legitimate project is surrounded by all these scams with such similar-sounding names! Happy to publish your comment.
I’ve been also cheated and received one invoice and realised that their service was not free of charge … I clearly prefer going to court before having to pay.
I now think there is a place for a kind of wikileak for tracking this kind of people. I’m sure people would think twice before working in such an organisation if they knew their names would be registered eternally as being part of a fraud system.
Good idea. I’ve known one guy who worked for them and was distraught that his name appeared here in connection with these scams. Served him right, really. In the end, however, I took his name out purely because he was helpful in providing inside information.
I am so glad that I found this site as I also fell for this scam and received a fax to pay amount. Will not pay a cent.
Hello. One question – Did anybody receive any CD or confirmation about registration in their f….. data base? I’m afraid that I will be made to pay when I will receive their “services”.
Hi Barbara. Whether they put you in their scam directory or not makes not difference: it’s an internationally-recognised scam and has no validity. Read all the experiences here carefully – you will see that nobody has taken anyone to court ever. Expo Guide is the same scam just with a different name. Take your time to read the comments, you’ll be reassured.
Thank you very much Sam!
Hi guys,
I just received their invoice, they should start legal procedures for those who don’t pay in the British Island jurisdiction!!!
thanks!
K.
Hello Krystei. Why in the British Islan jurisdiction? According to their “Terms and Condition for Insertion” – point 9: “The place of jurisdiction in any dispute arising is the service provider’s address” and point 10 “The agreement between the service provider and the subscriber is governed by the law of the juridical seat of the service provider”. Their address is in Netherlands and they are registrated in Charlestown Nevis (WI – West Indien ??)
I experienced the same. I was almost out of my job for having signed this paper, it’s this blog that saved my job, thanks guys
These business guide jerks actually sent us multiple e-mails harrassing us to pay the money and even offficial fax letters, man they look so realistic, I’m not surprised why people end up paying for it.
Infact, I still have a letter stating the same in my hand right now. Emails keep coming from their account manager (Andreea).
Dont pay for it guys, or should I say just dont sign anything without researching the company first.
Cheers!
Deep – that’s great to hear. Makes my Sunday actually
It’s a pity these scammers can’t feel what it’s like to help someone out instead of rip them off.
I stupidly completed their form thinking it was ‘free’ until I started receiving reminders through the fax and post. I even had a couple of phonecalls. All reminders are from a Ms Julia George.
Before completing their form I double checked through google whether they had a website, which I found and all looked fine, I obviously was’nt quick enough to see the small print regarding a fee though which is very frustrating. Now they keep bombarding me with constant reminders which is extremely annoying but they are all going straight in the bin as I certainly wont be paying!
Have you ever tried sending them any correspondence?
They will NEVER answer you personally.
It is a SCAM, please don’t pay them anything!
HERE ARE ONE OF THEIR POSTS, SENT TO MILLIONS;
I bet if you check, this invoice number have been re-used and re-used …
Dear Sirs,
I am writing regarding the invoice no. 74338 which had the due date 10/01/2011. So far no payment or proof of payment was made available to our company and consequently, our Credit Department will issue on the 14th of March 2011 the Final Reminder towards Your Company.
Please be advised that in case of non-payment within 5 days from the date of the Final Reminder, EU Business Services Ltd. will take legal action against Your Companyand EUR 300,- shall be added to the outstanding amount of EUR 1124,-.
We would like to avoid any further situations that may arise from this unsolved matter, but we cannot do so should we not have your cooperation.
Payment should be made using the following bank account:
IBAN: SK36 7500 0000 0040 1273 2549
SWIFT CODE: CEKOSKBX
A/c#: 4012732549
Thank you!
Best Regards,
Ms Alessia
Account Manager
Call center: 0031 203 120 477
Fax: 0031 205 248 107
Hear hear Rupert!
Simple advice – and very true.
Absolutely, Quinton. The only real thing on that letter will be their bank account details.
Hi guys,
I experienced the same situation on EUROPE BUSINESS GUIDE with my company Tosky Records from Italy.
Their form seems to be very clear and professional,
but i thought subscription was for free.
I’ve received my first invoice, my emails for cancellation always turns back to me.They only receive fax and they tell me (via email) that they only can cancel the subscription for second and third year.
I’m very happy to read these posts!!!
Do you think that is better to contact a lawyer to write a letter for cancellation to them or simply don’t respond and absolutely don’t pay?
Please help me, I’m not sure what to do…
Probably their names are scam too…(Ally, Dana,ecc…)
Hi Giorgio – sorry to hear you’ve been caught out. All the evidence seems to show that none of these scammers have ever tried (far less succeeded) taking anyone to court. They don’t need to, it’s all about fear and bullying.
You don’t need to do anything. You WILL get threatening letters / emails / phone calls. You just need to ignore them as much as you can – and certainly DON’T worry. Keep reading ALL of the comments on this site and others as reassurance. Everybody gets the same level of threat as you; nobody gets made to pay anything – unless you choose.
Good luck, keep us informed
Sam
After ignoring many of their reminders, I received a call from someone claiming to be from the Netherlands but the telephone number started with +40, which I believe is Romania
I said that I would only pay when they sent me a hard copy of the directory, to which she said that it was online and could only send me a CD but that would take many weeks and that my invoice would be sent to her legal team by then
Lol…hope they are bluffing
CD or no CD it maketh no difference
it’s all a load of cack (can you tell I’m running out of things to say about these scams lols)
Hi from ISRAEL
so glad to see this website and comments!!
i’m fighting for almost one year with Europe business guide, got many letters, bills, also from their lawyer.
now i know not to answer any more and not to pay.
thank you
Ariel, glad you found all these other people and their comments
Let us know how things go, ok? And enjoy NOT worrying!
Hi!
Just received the fax from Credit department that our debt was forwarded to a collection company. I wonder how longer will my boss resist. They are good.
Tell your boss to read all the comments here, Sue:
http://www.mukaumedia.co.uk/expoguide-scam-decide-yawn/
Different name, same scam.
Hello everybody, hello Sam! I have sent a mail to European Parliament about Europe Business Guide. They have answered after more then 3 weeks that they have received more then 400 mails about this scam-company. Some time ago I’ve contacted some ogranisation in Netherlands Amsterdam Chamber of Commerce os something like that
. They know problem with EBG and they advised me to not pay.
I’m receiving payment reminders from EBG almost every week. By mail and by fax. Everything from Ms Alessia. I will not pay
I am from austria and I received this registration order too. my humble answer was:
Dear Mrs. Schwarz,
I never asked to send us information or a registration document and I never asked for newsletters.
I can not identify the benefit except the entry in your database without other pros, which are not already featured by any usual search engines.
The information about the free upgrade in this eMail and the information about the contract duration and prize (990 EUR) in an downright small font are evidence of a deliberate misrepresentation.
A serious company transports its conditions transparent and in unambiguous terms. If there are any other strategic edges for a customer which I’m not able to see – except the entry in an relatively unknown online database and a CD with – in Austria under 90 entries – addresses, you would do a favour to trustful companies by explaining your conditions and performance clearly and precisely and in a way the recipient of any “cold calling” and not wanted informations can catch it. Or you desist from sending SPAM, because it IS SPAM and in Austria this is not allowed in this way. In my humble opinion this is scam.
With lost hope of attention,
P.
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Please do not register there… it is waste of money.
If you have already registred: ignore it or write a certified mail to Europe Business Guide, P.O. BOX 2021, 3500 GA UTRECHT, The Netherlands and tell them that you will not pay anything because of a deliberate misrepresentation and their illigal way of doing business.
my english is not the best, but i hope you can get the point.
For Giorgio.
Giorgio I was to the italian postal office as well in order to screw these ppl. Police technician told me. Not pay, and do not mind.
Beside this what do you ppl think about this? we buy a box of anonymouse Envelopes. Inside we put a sheet with writte: PISS OFF.
then stick an address of their postal box. And send them. 1 envelope every day.
Obviously without stamp on the envelope. I guess that somebody have to pay in order to collect the envelopes from the postal box.
Whenever they will change it, we will change the stickers on the envelope.
Is that a bad Idea?
Pay them with the same money like this? Obviously do not put our address….
The collection company is waldberg & hirsh. A fake company. ON FB I knew ppl that is receiving notices from 3 or 4 years…
WE all have to consider them like SPAM. Nothing more.
I just recieved their offer to list my company for free in there directory. I, like most people would have simply taken them at face value and sent in the form had i not decided to see what this company was all about.
Thanks to this forum i have been saved a lot of money and a huge headache! Good work on exposing these filth!
We are victim as well was traped. But we never pay one cent to them. But we are suprised how can the be active for so long time? Where is the government and policemen?
They should go to hell immediately, otherwise there will be more innocent people to be victims.
God, please help.
I got an invoice this morning and immediately felt sick. Thank goodness I found this website or I would have been worrying like crazy. Are Business Link UK aware because they are often involved with helping new business start-ups. They should send out a warning or put some warning on their website.
My story: Not long after registering my business I received an unsolicited spam email enticing me to get an entry into a directory. Simple directory entries are often free and they know it. They are keen to put ‘updating is free of charge’ in bold type at the top of their entry form. So hiding in almost invisible print a ludicrous fee (for doing what exactly?) of 990 euros is deliberately misleading and obviously a huge con.
My invoice number is a good 7000 on from an earlier posting of 74338 for January – so that’s a lot of scams and a lot of bullying going on. These people are greedy and selfish and criminal. They say what goes around comes around – so if you are reading this, anyone from Europe Business Guide or whoever you call yourselves this year, you know what happens to people who harden their hearts …… it all catches up in the end. Karma.
Anyway, I would like to send a registered cancellation letter as per their Terms which says: “cancellation must be given in writing and must be sent by registered post with confirmation of receipt.” However, the UK post office says registered post only tracks as far as UK and there’s no proof of receipt for overseas. ‘Airsure’ (another post office service) offers better ‘tracking’, but only as far as overseas local delivery office – not a signature of receipt on delivery. And anyway – the address is a P.O.Box where noone can sign!! Another Catch 22 scam.
So don’t waste money on sending a registered letter either!
I will probably send them an email cancellation anyway (with a read receipt if I can get them to acknowledge.)
I will check back on this blog for updates and reassurance.
Thanks again Sam – Any other recommendations?
Hi Angie – thanks for the story. Any other recommendations? Yes – just don’t contact them AT ALL!
I have the same situation from Europe Business guide, they are threating our company to hand over our case to waldberg & hirsch global collections. I declined all their faxes and emails to pay this extra charges recurrring out of this proceedings.
I face the same situation. Glad to find this website, you give me more confidence to fight with them.
We are a Chinese trading company, usually we pay 1-2 wellknown b2b websites to promote our products and also try some free sites as subsidiary. In December I received one email from European Business Guide and recommended thier service. In their email they just want me to fill the PDF file with some informations of our company (name, business scope, contact information and our website)and stress the update is free of charge. It sounds they would like to provide free service (I understood their website is not so wellknown and they want to get more comapnies registered.) In their PDF file there is a paragraph named order, but all the letters are joined together I couldn’t read at all. Not sure if they made it on purpose or there was something wrong with my Adobe Reader. I thought it should be some disclaimer clause such as our company should be responsible for the truthfulness of the registration. I filled the document and sent to them.
One month later I received one email from a Ms Christine who claimed to be the account manager. She informed me that they’ve input our information on their page and charged Eur990.00 for the registration. I told her I wasn’t aware their service was not free. I also asked them to delete our information if it was chargable. But she refused and kept sending me invoices by emails and faxes.
I’ve replied her that I won’t pay it because it was a fraud. All the web companies we deal with won’t practise like them. If there is a charge they would issue the invoice beforehands, at least give me a notification of the charge.
The trouble is this Ms Christine keeps sending me emails (to my email address, my companiy email address and my collegue’s), also to our fax. Now her bill increased to Euro1424 (late payment and legal fee). If there is some person of their comapny show up I would be very glad to give him a beat.
I am not afraid of such bully but really hope someone would take the action to stop them. Quite upset to get these emails, also some weak and unexperienced people may pay the bill because of the pressure.
Hi Grace, welcome and thanks for your comment. You say “you give me more confidence to fight with them.”
My advice is don’t fight with them at all. Just ignore them. Hang up the phone, tear up their letters and report their emails as spam. Fighting with them just feeds their greed to get money from you.
We received a pdf form today, it contains “small print” set in uppercase only, the letters are spaced so dense, that reading the text is impossible.
Only copying the paragraph to a text editor reveals its true nature. Copy below:
ORDER
THE SIGNING OF THIS DOCUMENT REPRESENTS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEBPAGE: xxxxxxxxxxxx THE SIGNING IS LEGALLY BINDING AND GIVES YOU THE
RIGHT OF AN INSERTION ON THE ONLINE DATA BASE OF THE EUROPE BUSINESS GUIDE, WHICH CAN BE ACCESSED VIA THE INTERNET. AND A CD ROM WITH EUROPEAN BUSINESSES IS GRANTED, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONTRACT CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND
CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEBPAGE:WWW.EUROPEBUSINESSGUIDE.NET THE VALIDATION TIME OF THE CONTRACT IS THREE YEARS AND STARTS ON THE EIGHTH DAY AFTER SIGNING THE CONTRACT. THE INSERTION IS GRANTED AFTER SIGNING AND RECEIVING THIS DOCUMENT BY
THE SERVICE PROVIDER. I HEREBY ORDER A SUBSCRIPTION WITH SERVICE PROVIDER EU BUSINESS SERVICES LTD “EUROPE BUSINESS GUIDE”. I WILL HAVE AN INSERTION TO ITS DATA BASE FOR THREE YEARS. THE PRICE PER YEAR IS EURO 990. THE SUBSCRIPTION WILL BE
AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDED EVERY YEAR FOR ANOTHER YEAR, UNLESS SPECIFIC WRITTEN NOTICE IS RECEIVED BY THE SERVICE PROVIDER OR THE SUBSCRIBER TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE SUBSCRIPTION. YOUR DATA WILL BE RECORDED. THE PLACE OF
JURISDICTION IN ANY DISPUTE ARISING IS THE SERVICE PROVIDER’S ADDRESS. THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND THE SUBSCRIBER IS GOVERNED BY THE CONDITIONS STATED IN “THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR INSERTION” ON WEBPAGE:
http://WWW.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
hi Antony, it is the same situation with the PDF file I received, the letters are joined together and impposible to read.
Thanks for the info guys. I just started my new job and found that my predecessor had signed this document, now they’re chasing the company for payment, and even got to the stage of threatening us wit legal action. I told them to chase the previous maanger (kidding, I know he’s out of the country, but, anyhow..). I almost took it in, but a quick search on the internet gave me dozens of useful sites showing details of such scams. Pity the gullible manage before me did not check tha one out last year before signing.
Thank you guys. You just saved my ass. I was about to email them the signed form but just thought t check out their website. Then i found you.
Thanks again.
Hello, I’m from Russia and work for the Pereslavl Art and History Museum (our town is 130km from Moscow). We were cheated by EBG in December also having disregarded the small print in their registration form. Another reason is that before we had cultural contacts with the Dutch Embassy in Moscow and were not surprised to get such an offer from Netherlands. Partially it was my fault because I’m the only person in the museum who is competent enough in English.
Later we discovered this small print and sent them the cancellation request by ordinary mail which of course was ignored. Now my boss receives threatening letters, faxes and recently phone calls as well. As she has a basic command of English she can make out only every other word of what these people say (probably good for her
). We are always contacted by someone Ms. Dana. The last e-mail was with the threat to transfer our debt to some debt collection company in Netherlands(the exact name and address are given in their letter).
What makes things even worse that our museum really does not have enough funds to pay this amount. We’re holding on and not paying but these frequent attacks really get on our nerves. What would be your advice?
Hi Svetlana – thanks for your comment. Don’t worry, EBG can’t get money from you. You need to just be strong and ignore their letters, calls and emails. They have NO legal right or power to take you to court – and all the evidence shows that they have NEVER taken anyone to court.
I entered the form, thinking it was a free service. Why the heck not right? It took about a month to receive my “invoice” afterwards. I think they may have called between but they had woken me up from a nap and was quite groggy and don’t know what was said.
I saw the price and knew it was a scam. I entered in Europe Business Guide in google search and came here to discover that I was right.
As soon as I read the posts here I faxed over a page saying “FUCK YOU” with a nice picture of a beefy veiny penis, not sure if the fax actually went through… Hope they like that for payment!
Nice going Evan
I’m sure they’ll continue to harass you anyway – on the simple psychological basis that your anger=a cover for fear (at least in their books). Do let us know what happens! And take heart, they can’t do anything to you.
I also had sent them an email and just got a response this morning:
Dear Mr Evan Craig,
Thank you for your e-mail.
An important part of the Terms and Conditions (including the price, the
cancelling conditions and the validity of the order) is clearly stated on
the agreement you have validated.
Be kind and review all these documentation.
Best regards,
Ms Hanna
EU Business Services Ltd.
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I laughed it off
Laugh it up, fuzzball. (Quote Han Solo, Star Wars 1977)
Haha classic line.
I am wondering if and when these wackos will stop harassing me? Or am I for the long haul?
Dear All
since today morning I was trying to get in touch with them, in order to piss Europebusinessguide.net.
Beside their site doesn’t work, today, maybe torrow it will, is that somebody with some hackin knowledge make them a trick?
I’m amazed that people would download something from someone that they don’t know … that download could be a virus! Hope no one loses any money from this scheme and hope everyone stops downloading from strangers!!
True, Rodney. But it comes as a Pdf attached to email…and of course, it’s designed to sneak under the wire of people’s critical faculties. Good advice though!
Long haul I think, Evan. Make them work for it by giving the impression you’re really afraid and close to paying. Then keep them on the phone for hours at a time. That’ll tie them up and keep them away from the more vulnerable folks
Very glad you have this page. Thanks for the great public service.
Hi.
I have also been duped by the innocent initial email and filled in form also under the impression they were trying to build up a database of companies.
I phoned the company and Georgia, my account handler – who I have never heard of, said will email me with here response when I informed her that I want nothing to do with her company as their methods were underhand as in English and European Law, it clear that charges and fees must clearly be stated and not hidden in capital letters shrunk and at such a small size that nobody can or would read them.
I may hear from, I may not. I have a friend in The Netherlands and I will get her to report this company to the authorities …
This really pi**ed me off as it has taken phone calls to The Nethrelands and my time. What a waste of time…
I obviously will not be paying…
Regards
Stuart
Hi Stuart – try to ignore them and take comfort in the fact that you know they’re a scam and have no right, no means and no power to make you pay anything.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this site; you are doing many people a great favour. Many businesses are very small and this kind of thing can have quite devastating effects on vulnerable owners. I took the trouble to ring the Netherlands phone number and told them that if I heard anything more from them I would refer the matter to the police. They said “It is nothing to do with the police” The terrible truth is that they were probably right. Why are these people allowed to continue without prosecution? Those of us who have seen this website will I hope ignore all demands and delete their emails and bin their letters. May I encourage anyone who reads this comments section to add something of their own, even if it is only one sentence, since it will add to the campaign against these thieves.
Another victim!
I keep receiving emails and telephone calls from them demanding money (Europe Business Guide) and when i reply to their emails, they are returned as undeliverable!
I have told them that if they keep pestering me, I will issue a Writ against them for harrassment – wonder what their response will be – they are a fraud and con – avoid at all costs.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NEVER PAY THIS COMPANY ANY MONEY THEY ARE A JOKE OF A BUSINESS I TO FELL FOR THE FREE LISTING AND NOW THEY KEEP EMAILING AND FAXING AND SENDING LETTERS. I HAVE EVEN RECEIVED A LETTER FROM
Mr. K. Van Ruler
Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd
Fax: .0031 20 203 1481
HE IS A DEBT COLLECTOR JUST PUT THEM IN THE BIN AND DONT REPLY TO THEM THATS WHAT I DO THEY WILL GO AWAY JUST LIKE A BAD SMELL
This is very very very simple. Just ignore them, not a single answer, not even answer the phone neither their letters. If you give them a chance to make them feel they are in the “right” way they will keep on and on and on. So, absolutely ignore them. In the end ¿what is the worse it could happen? ¿Are they going to send you the police to catch you up? They don’t dare even to mention the word police neither laws. So the technique is simple, DON’T PAY ANY ATTENTION.
Exactly, Skinner!
I like to think that I am professional person but I too was taken in by this spam, believing it was FREE.
I think it is terrible the way they operate and that some people will actually be intimidated by their threats and pay up!
I was in the process of writing them an email today to say “Sue us then” when I stumbled upon this web site.
Well done to everybody to bringing this matter to the public attention.
Carry on the good work!
i was also scand by these freeks
Wendy, don’t even send them an email. Of course be ready to receive mails day afther day, but very simple, either put a filter in your outlook to avoid these messages or send them to the bin, as soon as they reach you. They don’t deserve not even 10 seconds of your time.
Hear, hear!
This fellow thinks you deserve to be scammed: http://www.mukaumedia.co.uk/international-credit-assessment-agency-icaa-cyprus/#comment-7484
It seems to me that this fellow had a terrible chilhood….and I wonder how their parents, if he knows them, educated him……….
Sam,
As a victim as well, we really appreciate your help and your work. But we wonder how we can end up the scammer to hurt more innocent people???The international policemen should be involved. They are the online terrorist!! They must be stopped,jailed and be sent to the hell!!!
More information from:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=55011156703
Hi Robert. I don’t think any ‘international’ police force is ever going to stop this kind of scam, unfortunately. The best thing we can do is put our content at the top of Google so that as soon as a victim starts getting threatened, they’ll go to Google and find people like us providing reassuring information – BEFORE they pay anything.
That’s way more powerful than a (non-existent) slow-moving, international police force.
Additionally, getting some mainstream media coverage in front of business people who are not so internet-savvy would be really useful.
Sono dei truffatori andrebbero minacciati di smettere e che se vogliono dei soldi che vadino a lavorare come tutti noi!!!
“They are crooks and should be threatened to quit if they want that money to work vadino like all of us!”
I also was scam and I have not paid anything. I received a letter from Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections. what should I do now? Still ignore them
Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections is just a front – for EBG to bully people. This Facebook page will make for re-assuring reading (particularly Dave Cherrie’s posts)
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=55011156703&topic=24715
Hi,
I believe all these emails received from scam addresses originate from one single organization, for one single engagement (for ex. the Europe Business Guide).
So I wonder in nowadays developed technology, how is it possible that the authorities cannot prosecute these criminal offenses.
Because in case the letters look Arabic, one obviously will skip reading them. I do not agree with that guy from Cyprus who obviously was one of the architects of the scam scheme (but probably too young to handle the conversation more wisely)that people should be more careful in reading the small letters by taking zooming glasses to read them. It is not a question of negligence, or lack of concentration, it is just the way an official document is read in common practice, especially when it looks like it is for free.
One does not go and read the location written in small tiny caps in case it is of no interest to him.
Since the intent of writing a notification like that was to deceive people, telling the half truth for bringing making them enthusiastic to the extent of not being able to ask themselves for the other half, and playing with fonts where the important information is transformed into a non important information; the ad is a fraud, an attempt to collect money by extortion in a fake e- business biding agreement.
And I had another requests for legal practitioners, they should attempt to improve the law on e-business contracting, in order not to leave ground for such scams to act as they like in promoting their business, by harassing people to pay, playing with their fears and uncertainties of the unknown.
And finally I have not seen on this page of comments any legal advisor to give a legal opinion in this matter, or maybe you Mr. Deeks as the leader of this discussion might collect some really legal opinion to distribute it to the victims of these scam schemes, in order for them to have a nice sleep for not paying, because they will finally have legal grounds to claim their non payment in the future if a court claim would be real.
Hi Ana, thanks for your comments.
You make a good observation – there are no comments here from legal professionals.
First of all, the people behind this scam will NEVER target legal professionals because they know they wouldn’t stand up to a lawyer for a second. Secondly, the absence of legal professionals may also be to do with the fact that there’s probably no money in this for lawyers anywhere
They wouldn’t be able to pin these scammers down long enough to bring a case against them.
In my experience, most people are too scared to say outright what they think about these scammers. Everyone treats them as if they somehow were entitled to the benefit of the doubt – just in case they’re somehow legal. They’re not. These people set out to deliberately scam people and have been doing it via a range of directory titles for more than a decade.
The one thing that should reassure you isn’t a legal view (because you’ll inevitably find enough difference of opinion to leave you uncertain), it’s the total absence of people commenting that they’ve been taken to court by Expo Guide (or any of those directories). Search the web and look for a single story of someone being taken to court out of hundreds of thousands of people scammed. You’ll find plenty of stories of people who have paid out of fear or shame, but not ONE about having actually been taken to court.
That’s what people should keep in mind.
Having said that, I’ll go out to my network and see if a legal friend or two would look into this (out of interest).
We have received a letter from Waldberg & Hirsch a global collection company demanding payment on behalf of EU Business Guide, we didn’t even complete the documentation someone completed it on our behalf! We have sent eamils and letters but with no response other that PAY US!
Today the demands are for Eur1424
What a joke!
Sam,
I got some words from other site as the following:
Victims who fill in the form unaware of the cost are soon presented with requests for payment, and then threats of legal action once payments are not recieved.
After a little research, it is apparent that there is no registry of World Businesses, even though it does sound very official and important. Additionally, there is no “Europe Business Guide” either. These are made up names masquerading as “online directories” that are – in reality – just lists of websites owned by scammers, of which being included offers no advantages, but it likely to increase your load of other SPAM emails.
This means this operation is not much more than a relatively crude scam designed to get business owners to pay money for threat of being sued. However since the mass SPAM emailing and the associated forms and websites are clearly designed to mislead and decieve victims, any threats of legal action recieved from the scammers can be safely dismissed as scare tactics. Misleading victims in such a manner in an attempt to trick them into signing up for a completely useless directory scam and then threatening them with legal action is in itself an illegal practise, and a court is the last place these scammers want to end up.
If you have filled out a form and sent it already, make sure you send a follow-up email cancelling your “subscription”, and make sure you hand over no money. If you have already sent payments, stop doing so immediantly. Be aware that recieving any refund from this scam is unlikely.
It would be a joke but for the fact that these people will end up calling you and using varying degrees of threat to try to make you pay!
Lol. Getting a refund from these people isn’t just “unlikely”, it aint’ never gonna to happen. Unless you’ve a lot of money to spend and a top flight law firm behind you and a few years to play with.
But, Robert, absolutely agree with those comments.
If I had been scammed by these people (and knew what I now know about them) then this is the letter I would write:
“Dearest scammers. Firstly, I’m never going to pay you. Secondly, I know how you operate.
You therefore have two choices: you can either waste time trying to bully me into paying or you can invest your resources elsewhere.
Personally, I would prefer you to carry on trying to get money out of me because that will allow me the satisfaction of knowing I’m eating into your profits and the pleasure of experimenting with new ways to divert your time and energy away from more vulnerable people.
I look forward to hearing from you soon
Yours, etc”
Are these people for real? I am now revolting against this bunch of corrupt hoodlums who think everyone is stupid enough to rip-off! Perhaps we may not drag them to court but we are not going to pay for fraud. Tried to write to them several times and it fails delivery all the time.
I like and admire some of the comments presented and really wish we can sign a petition to sanction these guys but who do you presented to..!
At any rate it feels good just to let my frustration out and to know am not the only one fighting these guys!
Cheers
These guys are real hoodlums. We’ve been getting really threatening emails from them for sometime, though no action as set. They say they keep adding $300 to the bill and will pass the ‘debt’ onto a debt collection agency. It’s a really horrible scam.
They hid the charges in the small print. There must be some way of shutting them down?
Thanks GC
I don’t think there is a way of shutting them down, Gary. It’s not high priority in a world riddled with corporate and political corruption and beset with all its other problems… the only weapon against these people is awareness and the wisdom of the ‘crowd’. We’re doing that here. It’s a small thing, but it’s better than nothing.
In reality, the OFT in the UK can’t even stop UK-based scammers running ‘prize draw’ promotions. It takes a couple of years to get them into court, everyone is too afraid to treat them like criminals, they get asked to change what they do so to make it bit less, uh, ‘misleading’ and…presto… they carry right on pretty much as before. Two years later, the OFT gets them back to court again, they get treated with kid gloves again, let off… And so it goes.
If that’s how we treat UK scammers whose exact identities and locations we KNOW, forget bringing the people behind EBG, Expo Guide etc to book.
We also have an invoice 81441 and presured to pay for payment
atually made the international payment then stopped it at 16.50
03.05.11 after finding this site, how lucky was that?
Suspition were arowsed when it was a Slovakia Bank NOT Dutch
One luky escape as I had alread posted a letter canceling all the rest of the years.
Were is the law to stop this kind of thing?
I just spoke to Brian – looks like he just saved himself €900 by Googling Europe Business Guide. Nice one Brian, happy trucking – and do your bit to raise awareness of these kinds of scam will ya?
They have sent us emails, called us on the phone and we have told itwe will not pay.Brasil laws are very protective against crimes on the web like that I just wonder why this company has not been put out of business by European countries authorities (not know what country it is based at) but it certainly jeopardizes the work and image of other european (serious) comnpanies.
Same is going on with me and my NEW – Company
These guys are real hoodlums. We’ve been getting really threatening emails from them for sometime, though no action as set. They say they keep adding $300 to the bill and will pass the ‘debt’ onto a debt collection agency. It’s a really horrible scam.
They hid the charges in the small print. There must be some way of shutting them down?
They have informed that the service is FREE, then how do they demand such a huge amount.
Better sue them with International Laws.
Somebody should – if you could find an ‘international law’ that applies. If I had been scammed, maybe I would – but I wasn’t. Anybody angry enough to take on the job?
I like to send a follow up letter for the same scam to Europe Business Guide or europebusinessguide.net.
Apparently I am one of the victime who overlooked the fine print of the form and signed in for the “free” advertising.
As soon as I found out that it is a scam, I denied payment and what follow up phone calls from these scamers demanding for payment. I am uploading the latest letter from these stupid scamers from “Walberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd” to demand for payment. I truly think these scamers are crossing the line and getting on my nerve. They presumably think they are a legitimate institiution that can legally go and scaming people for money. Is there anyway we can put a stop to these?? I wish someone can give me some construction advice so I can act accordingly.
Sincerely
CHL
Received yet another demand for payment, with yes you’ve guessed it, another 300 euro added to the bill.
I’ve sent 5 letters and numerous emails to this company but this seems to fuel the fire, so I’m now ignoring them.
This really is an horrendous scam, I can’t believe it is allowed to go on they must be earning a fortune from innocent, hard working individuals!
Hi,
As others even I have received an Invoice and is being chased for the money.
They are constantly ringning me and bothering me.
When I received an invoice I understood its a scam, I told them bluntly that i will not be paying for the same and moreover i did tell them to let me know where is my advertisement printed and what were they doing for 1 year not sending me the Invoice they do not have a reply for the same.
They always call from an unknown number.
Any after reading all the coments, I am certain this is a scam, thus no mater what i will not be paying.
Thanks guys.
Regards,
Raj
Hi everybody,
Our company now facing the same problem on this European Business Guide. After reading all these comments I understood that our company is one of the victims who overlooked the fine print of the form and signed in for the “free” advertising. Later on, when I realized that it is a scam, I started to ignore all their e-mails and faxes demanding for payment. But having received a letter from these stupid scammers from “Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd”, I started to worry whether they are real? I truly think these scammers are crossing the line. They hid the charges in the small print. They have informed that the service is FREE, then how do they demand such a huge amount?
However, I’m VERY glad you have this page. Thanks for the great assistance.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL!
I’m from Russia. The same story, just more fresh. I copy here the letters for you, guys, hope, it will be helpful for somebody.
(BTW, guys, just ignore these emails and never pay. Fuck the scamers.)
Our story.
Our new colleague from marketing dept., who doesn’t understand English well (as most of Russians though) also filled in the form of *FREE ads at BGuide* and sent it to this company. I found out his mistake only when I started to get tons of emails from them with invoices. I just ignored them.
Today they called to the office (nobody speak English there) and after they sent me email (I live in China, so I can’t be reached by the russian office phone) about the payment:
From EU Business Services Ltd / Ms Hanna
Dear Sirs,
I am writhing on behalf of EU Business Services Ltd concerning the outstanding invoice no.77367 issued on behalf of ESMERALDA LLC.
I would appreciate if you could provide me with a phone number in order to discuss this matter and hopefully solve it in an amicable way.The phone number provided to us on the order is valid but, unfortunatly, I do not speak russian.
Your earliest reply will be highly appreciated.
Best regards,
Ms Hanna Skopet,
EU Business Services Ltd
I actually didn’t expect, that it could be a scam company, so I answered to them like this:
Than I got the mail from them with threats:
EU Business Services Ltd / Ms Hanna
Dear Miss Lana,
Thank you for your prompt reply. I appreciate it.
I am sorry about this misunderstanding, but please understand that we could not have anticipated this situation and not deliver the requested services.
At this moment the invoice is way much overdue and the amount has increased dramatically to EUR 1924 due to late payment fees. However, should you make the payment until Friday; we will receive the initial amount, i.e. EUR 990. Additionally, we will take all the necessary steps to give effect to your withdrawal from the contractual relationship and you can consider year 2 and 3 cancelled.
Moreover, I am sorry to inform you that our company policy compels us to take legal steps against your company, in case of non payment. Therefore, I kindly ask you to reconsider your decision and help me solve this matter amicably, and save us both the use of time and resources.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I am looking forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Best regards,
Ms Hanna Skopet
EU Business Services Ltd
I realized, that something is wrong, how can she talk to me like this. So I send them one more email.
After I searched in Google and found a lot of info about them, that they cheat companies. So I actually just waisted my time by talking to them. But I decided to continue and find out, who they are. I got this email from them:
Dear Miss Lana,
Thank you for your email.
I understand your situation but unfortunately, there is nothing I can do more than I have already explained.
Unfortunately, at this moment we cannot cancel the invoice (the invoice is 3 months overdue), and the cancellation is in contradiction to our company policy and to the laws that govern our agreement.
The best I can do is to let you pay the initial amount, i.e. EUR 990 and terminate the contractual relationship for the next two years.
Should you fail to complete your financial obligations until Friday, the 3rd of June, please be advised that this matter of non payment will be placed in the hands of our solicitors.
I am sorry again for your financial situation. Hope we can solve this matter amicably.
Best regards,
Ms Hanna Skopet
EU Business Services Ltd.
And my answer was:
So now I wait till they send me something, if they are going to do it. If there are any news, I will let you know by next posting here.
I got next answer from them:
Dear Miss Lana,
Thank you for your email.
Please find the information requested by you, stated below:
Full office address
P.O. Box 2021, 3500 GA Utrecht,
The Netherlands
Office phone number
Phone +31-203-120-477 ;
Fax: +31-205-248-107
I would appreciate if you send me the swift confirmation as soon as you manage to process the payment, for identification purposes.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Ms Hanna Skopet
EU Business Services Ltd.
My email again:
Her answer:
Dear Miss Lana,
As requested please notice the fact that EU Business Services Ltd. is legally registered, and thus, is a perfectly valid company.
Our company is registered as follows:
Registration No: C27229,
Charlestown – St.Kitts, Nevis (West Indies),
Henville Building, Prince Charles Street
Moreover, our offices are located in the Netherlands, the town is Utrecht, and the zip code is 3500.
I hope this email provides you with the information you requested.
Have a beautiful day.
Best regards,
Ms Hanna Skopet
EU Business Services Ltd.
I’m sick of it, don’t want to waist my time anymore.
Guys, one more time: don’t pay and forget about them.
Good work, Lana. They will just get shittier and shittier until they realise you’re just fucking with them, then they’ll insult you and give up.
Awwwww. I bet she was getting all hot and sweaty at the thought of her/his commission on €990. Shame.
Hi, sam !
I met the same situation. Fortunately to find your website through google (baidu in China),so I will not pay them, even they sent several e-mails and phoned me.
Yesterday, a lady phoned me and threated to take the legal action
against me.
Will they really take such a action ?
Also I still have the following doubts:
1. EU and USA are the most advanced countries, and also legitimate
in the world, how can this happen in EU? is this company legal ?
If this company still exist, we couldn’t know how many innocent
peoples will face their threating,and even some may make
the payment.
2. I never visit their website: http://www.europebusinessguide.net
Yesterday, I’ve tried to visit this website, but couldn’t open
it. I wonder if our government has found this web is scam,
and if the other peoples can open this web.
3. I often fly to EU, if they find me anywhere in EU, will they
take any action against me ?
Thanks for your advice.
Best regards
Henry
Hi Henry, thanks for your comment.
1) This ‘organisation’ still exists and is scamming people globally. Can’t be sure how many people in your situation but over the years I’d say easily several hundred thousand people… Of which probably 3-4% pay out of fear. Why are they not stopped? Because governments and international law is slow – even when it know about something. You’ve got to first ‘outlaw’ what these people do, then prosecute.
2) Their website has been dead for a while. It was only a ‘dummy’ anyway. It’s a good sign and should go a long way to reassuring a victim like yourself that these people are scammers.
3) Don’t worry, Henry. These people set this scam up to work just by making phone calls and sending letters from non-existent debt collection companies. They can’t and don’t do anything to people who don’t pay.
Hi, sam !
Good morning !
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply.
Now I’m confident to fight with them.
Best regards
Henry
Hi all,
I am surprised to know that most of you guys out there also did face this dubious action from the so called European Business Guide company. someone signed the form on behalf of our comapany without noticing the little font writings below the form. This was an intended act and trap, i guess!
I am really happy to know the stand point most of you out there have taken. we will do same with our small non profit and charitable organisation out here in Germany. In fact, our entire account as at now does not even suffice what they are asking us to pay.
May be we should write a joint petition in the days ahead-if possible also take a collective legal action against this so called EBD company.
Cheers!
Laura
Laura – there’s a Facebook group http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_55011156703&ap=1 and one of the victims from the US has got the Dutch police interested in prosecuting these scammers. There’s a form you can download and fill it over at that Facebook group, it’s worth a look. Thanks for your comment!
Dear All,
Many thanks for all the comments you made. This is an amazing service through which we can inform each other of such experiences so that such scams are known to the general public.
I too signed the misrepresenting form of Europe Business Guide-scam and realised that they do not mean good at all.
If there is anything we can do collectively to stop this process I am happy to help.
Regards
Yiannis
Hi Yiannis – thanks for your comment. Just do what you can to raise awareness amongst your friends and colleagues.
Hi Sam,
Have already spoken to people about that.
My lawyer also rang them up and had a little go at them. But, then I tried to send an email message to EBG, following my contact with this site, threatening them with legal action. The message was not delivered because there is ‘a permanent error’. I wonder whether they ceased to exist? The error message also says ‘account or domain may not exist, they may be blacklisted, or missing the proper dns entries’.
Regards
Yiannis
Hi Yep.. you guessed it, I eagerly applied to these con artists because it was free to have your company registered. Thought it would be good for my business exposure.
Then all of a sudden slapped with bill for 993 Euro? Well I’m not afraid, they can go spin for that I tell you! The cheek as well.. It’s not even a small amount they request either you know, you may be inclined to pay a nominal fee between say 50-99 Euros but 993 come on!
Anyway, whatever the fee I was never going to pay, and you should not either. I came here when I received my final reminder because I smelled a rat, and thanks to you guys I’ve been proved right so thanks and please keep exposing these frauds!!!!
Paul.
Their website / email hosting doesn’t work I think.. It is encouraging that they’re not able to get it working again. Mind you, all they want is money, not to have people calling them. They want YOU on the end of a line when THEY call, not the other way round.
You’re welcome paul – thanks for commenting
Just received their first fax for a payment. Never even heard of them before now!
Sent them an email back stating our intentions of NOT paying.
We will be referring this issue to our Solicitor just in case to make sure we are sufficiently covered.
It’s reassuring to know there are so many of you out there taking the same action.
Thanks and regards.
I also have been screwed by these scammers , let’s all find a way to remove them from the internet OR at least make sure that they get punished .please email me if you find a way or maybe we can sign a petition or something and complain to cyber police …
Hi from Greece.
Same story and same actions by them since 3 months.
I’ll not pay as also local internet crime authorities advised.
Let’s be in touch.
hello.
with me happened the same, today i have received from them the invoice, and i was simply shocked. i am afraid because i have done this alone, and my boss doesn’t know about this at all.so i have to do nothing? are you sure? maybe i have to write them that i have found out about them how do you think? or maybe i have to write them that i wouldn;t pay them at all. Tell me please how to do!
Thanks
Anna – yes, I’m sure you don’t have to do anything. I recommend you tell your boss and show him this site and others on Google. You WILL get letters and phone calls so please be prepared. If your boss knows, then it will be much easier. Tell him you are not alone, hundreds of thousands of other people like you have been caught by these scammers.
They cannot and DO NOT take you to any court. Don’t be afraid of them. I have been researching for two years and found NO evidence of anyone every being made to pay anything. But they WILL try hard to scare you – including letters from a fake ‘debt collector’ company called Walberg & Hirsch. Ignore them.
Hi Sam, Thank you for your reply. Meanwhile i found out some more facts that they are scammers,i asked a lawyer, and he told me that they probably had registered their firm in New Indies, so,there are no rules snd justice there,(or maybe it is not registered at all).Yesterday i wrote a letter, and told them not to disturb us more with such a questions, and i did not receive a reply yet.
I’m stil waiting.
ok, Thanks again! I will keep in touch with you!
Hi Sam,
I have an address of the guy who runs this ‘business’ if you think it will be useful to let you guys have it. Somehow, this scum has to stop because it is waste of time.
Regards
Yiannis
Hi
I am one more on the list….I have asked them to remove my company’s name from the directory and they said yes…as soon as the payment is received…..
A friend of mine was able to investigate a bit more and found that this comapny is registered in Nevis West Indies and their address is just PO box in Holland, their domain returns a Server in Romania and their domain is registered in China.
They have at least 10 more domains with similar names on the server.
Well…I think I will joint the group of those wh will not pay and prepare to get a lot of emails and letter from them.
today, I also received same notice of payment.
at the beginning, I have a little worry on it – i made a misktake
the above comments and posts give me lot of help and advise, thank you every body…
I NEVER pay them….
Regards from Bulgaria!
We have been “chased” by Europe Business Guide for more than 6 months already. We shall never pay (despite the promised remission of the accumulated interest), but we are wondering whether to write them an official angry letter (to the POBox given)?!
What an unbelievable insolence! This definitely, should be stopped!
Just had a call from the so called woman still demanding payment and numerious letters, which was refused, told her we have informed Lincolnshire Police over a month ago (which we have had no response from). Her reply we are a legally registard company.
We have until the 24 June to pay or court action will be taken
Any surgestions as to our next move?
“Re
gistard company” – I agreeDo nothing, ignore them. They can’t do anything to you. Hassle the Lincolnshire Police again, they have a duty to protect you!
Hello,
I’ve just been caught out aswell…first received a couple of emails about two weeks ago which intially I thought were spoof as their email addresses are strange…then received a fax advising payment was still due…could not think what I had signed as only european listing I had completed was “free”…or so i thought. Dug out the paper work and there it was in the small print…had not even dawned on me to check that!! Have sent an email back to them asking to be removed and subscription cancelled. Will wait and see response but have a feeling I shall be bombarded like the rest of you…hopefully they will go away in due course!! What a pain.
Hi, we are yet another victim. I really am totally PISSED that we fell for the scam. But that’s water under the bridge. I am so happy to see your site and all the comments, at least I can take comfort that I am not the only person to fall for the dirty tactics.
The lady harassing us is Ms Maria, account manager and her email is maria@eubs-ebg.net
This is one nasty rude b—-h who keeps on sending us daily emails since we made the mistake of calling them to cancel the insertion. She threatened to sue and send the debt collectors all the way to Malaysia to squeeze the money out of us!
Thanks for enlightening me, I was really upset about this but now I shall sleep easy.
Honney
More info:
the Netherlands call center tel no is +31-208-080-789
the fax no is +31-205-248-107
Get the local police in Netherlands to call and trace these numbers…hopefully can catch the scammers
Honney
Dear Sam,
We have also been suffered from world company register,EU business directory, I think it is another name to scaming and did the same work by the same people.http://www.europebusinessguide.net is closed but working with www,worldcompanyregister.com which is alive.
I just received final reminder on 4th July and if we fail to pay within 11th July then legal action goes to us with additional fees Euro 300 on top.
Just check the mail written by Alessia,
Your postponing the payment has already increased the amount with late payment and administration fees (your debt to our company has now reached EUR 1129,-).
Our Credit Department will issue on the 11th of July, 2011 the Final Reminder towards your company. Please be advised that in case of non-payment within 5 days from the date of the Final Reminder, we will take legal action against your company and EUR 300, – legal fee will be added to the above-mentioned outstanding amount.
Our Credit Department accepts EUR 995,- to be paid in order to settle your account if the proof of payment is received from your company by 11/07/2011 the latest.
Be kind and send us attached by e-mail (to alessia@internationaldirectoriesgroup.com) or by fax (0034 91 791 9167) the proof of payment as soon as the invoice is paid, in order to avoid the above-mentioned supplementary fees.
IBAN: SK36 7500 0000 0040 1273 2549
SWIFT CODE: CEKOSKBX
A/c#: 4012732549
Thank you for your time and cooperation.
Best regards,
Ms Alessia
Account Manager
Just after receiving second reminder, I thought that I have to pay but at the same time I got similar problem faced by some Nepalese companies and they didn’t pay for the same. Then we were on confusion and try to find the reality and searched the internet where I had visited you. Just let me know that whether do I need to contact to remove and cancel the contract?
I was really upset about this scam.
“The lady harassing us is Ms Maria, account manager and her email is maria@eubs-ebg.net
This is one nasty rude b—-h who keeps on sending us daily emails since we made the mistake of calling them to cancel the insertion.”
That’s the experience of someone else. Read the second line – it confirms what I’ve always said: if you contact them (in any way) they will bully you harder. DON’T!! Just ignore them – they can’t do anything to you.
I just received their final reminder like these:
We hereby charge you for the insertion in the 2011/2012 edition of europe business guide based on your order dated 23/03/2011.
one year subscription eur 990
late payment fee eur 99
Administration fee eur 35
Total eur 1124 (excluding vat)
* No vat is invoiced for e.c.customers. for customers(enterprisers) from the EU:”vat moved to entrepreneur”
Payment should be made within 5 days after the date of the final reminder to the below-mentioned bank account.
In case of late payment,legal steps shall be taken against yourselves and additional legal cost of eur 300,- will be added to your outstanding amount of EUR 1124,-
bank details:
IBAN: SK36 7500 0000 0040 1273 2549
SWIFT CODE: CEKOSKBX
A/C#：4012732549
Please state clearly your invoice number.bank charges for senders.
Hello!
I’m another victim, when I saw their invoice I thought I went mad, I couldn’t sleep that night, on top of this I got my stomachache again due to the nerves.
I replied them saying that I had not even a company and that I was just a freelance guide and that I wouln’t pay them such a huge amount of money for nothing. I replied them three or four times even I sent a fax cancelling the registration but they kept on saying that I had to pay.
I had not had any news of them in 20 days and I felt relieved I thought they had left me alone, but this morning I had a fax again with the invoice and letter reminding me that if I don’t pay in 7 days the total amount will be increased, I was frightened and started to search in google, and thank Good I found your comments, now I feel better!
Thank you
I just received their final reminder as just below:
I am writing regarding the invoice no. 83084 which had the due date 09/05/2011. So far no payment or proof of payment was made available to our company and consequently, our Credit Department has issued today, the 11th of July, 2011 the Final Reminder towards your company.
Please be advised that in case of non-payment within 5 days from the date of the Final Reminder, International Directories Group Ltd. will take legal action against your company and EUR 300,- shall be added to the outstanding amount of EUR 1129,-.
We would like to avoid any further situations that may arise from this unsolved matter, but we cannot do so should we not have your cooperation.
Our Credit Department accepts EUR 995,- to be paid in order to settle your account if the proof of payment is received from your company today, the 11th of July, 2011.
Be kind and send us attached by e-mail (to alessia@internationaldirectoriesgroup.com) or by fax (0034 91 791 9167) the proof of payment as soon as the invoice is paid, in order to avoid the above-mentioned supplementary fees.
Bank details:
IBAN: SK36 7500 0000 0040 1273 2549
SWIFT CODE: CEKOSKBX
A/c#: 4012732549
Thank you for your time and cooperation.
Best Regards,
Ms Alessia
Account Manager
hi
my answer is : GET FUCK YOU, in all my sent e-mails..
I think, the mails are sent from Romania:
below is message source :
Received: (qmail 16547 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2011 00:11:58 -0700
Received: from hera.isgroup.info (HELO email.eubs-eucd.com) (82.208.152.6)
by 207-150-193-113.aus.us.siteprotect.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Jul 2011 00:11:57 -0700
Received: from company9f6d128 (gw-eu-business-services-tmp2.dnttm.ro [83.103.190.162] (may be forged))
by email.eubs-eucd.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6I73mkQ057419
for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:03:49 +0300 (EEST)
(envelope-from hanna@eubs-ebg.net)
Message-ID:
From: “EU Business Services Ltd / Ms Hanna”
I would like to inform you that I was victim of this fraud and I was afraid but with your stories, I am ready to fight with this company with doubtful practices. I will not pay. European Business Guide has just sent an invoice to me but I will not react.
Thanks for your stories.
Regards
Roger Nkoum
Roger, so glad that you’ve found the information here reassuring. You’re right; don’t react. You should also join the Facebook group for ‘Stop EU Business Guide’ – 705 members and counting
http://www.facebook.com/groups/55011156703
See you there!
Hi Sam,
This is the last e-mail I have received, Whan can I do?
We have to remind you the due date for the invoice no. xxx issued by EU Business Services Ltd for your first year of insertion of xxxxxxxinto Eu Business Register Mr xxx has ordered was the 11/04/2011.
Be advised that we are in the possession of a 3-year valid order placed on behalf of your company.
Your debt to our company has reached EUR 1429,-, as late payment, administration and legal fees have been added to the initial amount of the invoice.
Provided the payment will be made by the 18th of July, 2011 we accept the amount of EUR 1129, – in order to settle your account this year.
In case of non-payment, our Legal Counselor will issue the 2nd legal letter on the 25th of July, 2011, increasing your debt with EUR 500, – additional legal fee.
Your debt will then reach EUR 1929,-. At that point, a payment less than this amount will not solve the issue we obviously have with your company in your honoring your financial obligations towards us.
Thank you for your time and cooperation.
IBAN: SK36 7500 0000 0040 1273 2549
SWIFT CODE: CEKOSKBX
A/c#: 4012732549
Best regards,
Accounting
EU Business Services Ltd.
P.O. Box 2021, 3500 GA Utrecht, The Netherlands
Fax: 0031 205 248 107
Anne, don’t do ANYTHING! You need to ignore these people and not communicate with them. They are scammers – have no power to bring any legal action against you because they’ve used a well-known con-trick to make you sign in error.
In all the research I’ve done, I have found NO EVIDENCE of anyone being taken to any court by these people.
Also – join the Facebook group about this scam
Thank you for your time Sam, I am very glad to find this website, I was really concerned about this issue
We wil not pay. I feel better,
Regards from Spain
Please to be able to help, Anne. Good luck and check back and let us know how you get on.
We too have been received several mails regarding their falls payment with the name of Ms. Alessia. But now just received final notice with another name Ms Adeline Marcu and threatening us to make the payment within 8th August and otherwise legal action will be taken by some company named. Just the mail is like:
FINAL NOTICE
XXXX XX XXXXX XXXX Ltd. is hereby informed that we did not receive payment or confirmation of payment in the amount of EUR 1129,-.
One year description EUR 995,-
Late Payment Fee EUR 99,-
Administration Fee EUR 35,-
Total EUR 1129, – (excluding VAT)*
*No VAT is invoiced for E.C. customers. For customers (enterprisers) from the EU: “VAT moved to entrepreneur”.
Unless you govern yourself accordingly within the following days, the above-mentioned debt will be forwarded on 08/08/2011 to the following debt management and collection company:
Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd.
Hoogoorddreef 9, 1101 BA Amsterdam Zuid-Oost, The Netherlands
Payment will be made to the following bank account:
Bank details:
Beneficiary name: WORLD BUSINESS MEDIA LTD
IBAN: BG05RZBB91551000637238
SWIFT: RZBBBGSF
Please state clearly your invoice number. Bank charges for sender.
In case of non-payment, we inform you that additional legal fee in the amount of EUR 300, – will be added to the amount already due.
Best regards,
Ms Adeline Marcu
Account Manager
Tel: 0034 91 188 1696
Fax: 0034 91 791 9167
Previously, she had written the beneficiary name was world register company but now it is world Business media ltd. I think they are changing their face and trying to make fraudulent with another name.
Khem, I replied privately via email – but (to keep it short) don’t worry! This scam has never gone anywhere near a court of law – they wouldn’t dare as it would be THEM in trouble, not you
Interesting to note the ‘WORLD BUSINESS MEDIA LTD’ bit – that’s new to me, too.
Dear Sirs, I have just received call from EBG company and after 20 minutes ask them to send me ling for services they made for me. I can’t even visit their web site couse my secure softwaredoe’sn allow to. I am waiting for reply from them with link they prommissed to dend. Of course I’am not going to pay any cent.
I had a letter from these guys in the post, again like everyone else thought it was free, but then received an invoice from them in the post a few weeks later. Very professional looking i must say. I sent them an email as the phone number i got never rang. Got an email back form ms Julia saying i had to pay.
Reading all the comments on this site, ive had the same emails. I had a second reminder today via email and was going to offer to pay half, but after finding this site, im going to just ignore them. Who ever set this site up, well done. From reading all these posts, you’ve saved people thousands !!!!
They Cheat me too. We are NOT paying!!!! I advice you not to pay at all!!!!
Dave, glad you didn’t pay, don’t fear these scamming crooks. They’ve been bullying people for 10 years in various forms, it’s disgusting and it all depends on fear. Glad the site helped. When this scam first came to my attention, I realised that I could use a blog to put the testimony of lots of victims in front of other, worried and bullied victims to reassure them.
Now we’ve got all these comments together in one place, people can see for themselves that no matter how many DON’T pay, there is NO evidence anywhere of anyone ever being taken to any court – for obvious reasons. The trouble is, when you’re scared, you don’t trust your instincts and what you’re seeing – and these people know this, which is why they bully hard to destabilise their victims.
Sam, ive got to say i really thought i was going to have to pay. Probably like everyone else on here, without this, they would have ended up paying. I was currently trying to negotiate to pay half, but then decided to use google and came across this.
As far as i am concerned now, they can do their best to take me to court. Not that ill hold my breath for it !!
Wish i could get my hands on the little blighters !!
Hi Dave..good for you!
Join the Facebook crowd http://www.facebook.com/groups/55011156703/
Hello to everybody! I am a victim of the Europe Business Guide.After a lot of e-mails ,today i received a phone call from them.They threat me with the court,i told to them to do they’re job because our company will never do this payment.We thought that the registration was for free!!I notice that they use different names and different bank details for different costumers(victims in this case)..
Another victim !
by the way they have now different address,
http://www.eubusinessregister.com
http://www.european-traderegister.com
http://www.eubusinessservices.com
whois reveals origins from Romania IP 85.9.14.180
Location RO, Romania
City Timisoara, 36 -
Organization Media Directories
ISP GTS Telecom SRL
AS Number AS5606 GTS Telecom SRL
traffic comes from http://www.ISGROUP.INFO, not sure the link with this webdesign company. Are they responsable for it ?
Oh just found out they also have EUBUSINESSREGISTER.NET
the following site registered with godaddy.com
I just called godaddy and report to abuse.
Maybe you should also send email to abuse@godaddy.com
to push them give away owner info to web scam prevention authorities.
Admin Name……….. EU BUSINESS SERVICES LTD
Admin Address…….. PO BOX 2021 3500 GA UTRECHT
Admin Address……..
Admin Address…….. Nevis West Indies
Admin Address…….. 3500
Admin Address…….. WG
Admin Address…….. NL
Admin Email………. toppk7863@yahoo.com
Admin Phone………. +1.203824833
Tech Email……….. toppk7863@yahoo.com
Tech Phone……….. +1.203824833
Tech Fax…………. +1.203824833
Domain Name: EUBUSINESSREGISTER.NET
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS35.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS36.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Updated Date: 20-aug-2011
Creation Date: 19-aug-2010
Expiration Date: 19-aug-2012
http://www.eubusinessservices.com
is hosted by http://www.enom.com in US,
Please help to call them / email them (legal@enom.com)
to pressure and close the scamming site !
report abuse :
http://www.enom.com/help/abusepolicy.aspx
I received emails from anne who used this eubusinessservices.com address.
Thanks!
Steve
Thanks Steve!
Anyone live in Tampa Florida ?
Apparently this guy live at 8649 North Himes Avenue, Tampa, FL 33614
but online can not find apartment number… someone should pay him a visit !
no wonder it is hard to track down.. any Romanian people living there ?
EUBS-EBG.NET
EUROPE-BUSINESSGUIDE.NET
eubusinessservices.com
are all hosted by http://www.enom.com , please keep complaining to them, let’s close those sites !!!
Here is the page of company in India that registered “ETR2011.COM”
just file complaint at http://resources.directi.com/report-abuse/
if not work, go to their page http://www.directi.com/contact/ and you can click on “report abuse”
Thanks all ! Union is the force !
Thanks Sam very much for this great page !!
Steve, you’re welcome and thanks for your input.
Hi
I got dicked by them! I had recently taken over the business aNd received the ‘free’ update fax. I was working full time as well as looking after the business. I kept receiving faxes to say that my time was running out to update with details and as I was stressed and naive updated them – thinking the whole tome it was just a carry on
from my predecessor.
Well, if I was stressed then, fast forward 3 mths!
The harrassment alone. I had no extra money, my husband didn’t know and I felt completely alone. I actually in my stress still only read it as 99euros for the plain reason that 990 would be a ridiculous amount! Right! Well I paid the first amt to avoid my husband finding out and of course I am receiving on going emails from them. I was so stressed that I told my husband. Do u think they will give up??? Ah, no! The emails have now started from the collection agency. After finding this website I have now blocked the email so I do not have to read them. They are coming in thick and fast!!
Well, if I was stressed then you should have seem
Sarah, don’t be stressed no more
Sorry you paid the first one to them, though. That’s exactly what they depend on – peoples’ shame at having fallen for their scam, and fear that their boss / partner / friends will find out.. .
I received another letter today.
website is now http://www.europeantraderegister.net
Please send a complain email to the Singapor domain registration company : contact info is at this link. If enough people complains they will maybe ban this address.
http://www.webnic.cc/support_contact.html
Thanks !
Hi! Great thing I found this site – a client of ours has just handed over her case to us, as she keeps receiving invoices and threatening letters. Will make sure she sees this site, so as not to worry about the money at least.
Hi Stella, no worries. It’s just one big, nasty, bullying scam.
Hi All, did everyone just received another email ?
yes .. well eubs-eucd.com is registered in UK by
Domains.com Limited
1 The Courtyard
Southwell Business Park
Portland, DORSET DT5 2NQ
Phone +44.1305822753
Fax +44.1305822753
Email contact@domains.com
Please help sending request to them to close eubs-eucd.com
One can open ticket on this link !
http://www.domains.com/info/openticket.asp
If enough people complains we might get somewhere …
Thanks,
Steve
dear sam
we are so glad we came up with this page , this “company” has been asking us the late 3 months to pay for some service we never received or asked for. we are keeping on asking them to cancel any publication of our companies details , but never got back an answer . we thing that it is a big fraud and it is based on peoples fear of facing some legal consequences as they keep on mentioning on their mails.we will be glad if we are kept informed about any news concerning that matter .
regards ,
george varvaritis
barbaritis sa
Don’t ‘think’, George, KNOW it is a scam and you’re right, it’s based on peoples’ fear.
Hi, They started phoning me now from Holland after not receiving any letters, emails or faxes from them in about 2 months. I did not take their call as I did not know what to say to them. How should I respond to them if I get a call again?
Hang up Estelle. Like you would hang up malicious caller because that’s what they are. Read all the comments on these threads, also http://www.mukaumedia.co.uk/expoguide-scam-decide-yawn/ (different scam, exactly the same technique) and here https://www.facebook.com/groups/55011156703/
Well,
It happened to me too. They are good I give them that. I am glad I found you. My came from Spain from Denisse. I told her to contact our lawyer if she wants to get pay. Good luck to her
Hi,
thanks for your website, unfortunatly I signed the pepare & sent to EBS and after 9 months and reciving too many email from them, I recived below email from them. Please advise me. thanks a lot.
FINAL NOTICE
Rose COMPANY is hereby informed that EU Business Services Ltd. has not received payment or confirmation of payment in the amount of EUR 1124,-.
One year description EUR 990,-
Late Payment Fee EUR 99,-
Administration Fee EUR 35,-
Total EUR 1124, – (excluding VAT)*
*No VAT is invoiced for E.C. customers. For customers (enterprisers) from the EU: “VAT moved to entrepreneur”.
Unless you govern yourself accordingly within the following days, the above-mentioned debt will be forwarded on 04/10/2011 to the following debt management and collection company:
Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd.
Herengracht 518, 1017 CC Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Payment will be made to the following bank account:
Bank details:
IBAN: BG05 RZBB 9155 1000 6372 38
SWIFT: RZBBBGSF
A/c#: 1000 6372 38
Please state clearly your invoice number. Bank charges for sender.
In case of non-payment, EU Business Services Ltd. informs you that additional legal fee in the amount of EUR 300, – will be added to the amount already due.
Best regards,
Ms Andreea
Account Manager
EU Business Services Ltd.
Fax: 0031 205 248 107
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Dear Sam ;
I am so satisfied to find this website . thank you all for your relaxing comments .
We are a company from Iran and we experienced the same issue , not just our company ,but also some other Iranian companies experienced the same .
Recently we received a letter from Waldburg & Hirsh company and our contact person that disturb us so much from EU business guide is Mrs. Helen .
I explained them that Iran is in sanction and we cannot transact any money to Europe and I told them ,they can do legal actions
and also I ignore all other emails and letters ,But yet they don’t leave me and they send letters and emails day by day .
It is so interesting for me that they are working in all over the world .
We won’t pay even one cent to them like others .
Best regards ;
Sarah
Sarah – you’re welcome. Check the original post (up the page there) and find the link to the Facebook group, lots of other people like you. Relax and don’t you worry.
Mahdi.
Harmless scam. Don’t be fooled, they can’t do ANYTHING to you – unless you’re scared and pay them. That’s how they designed it to work.
Dear Sam Deeks,
Thanks for answer to Mehdi.
I am facing same problem and did not pay them.
Regards,
Majid
Tehran
Dear Sam,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
Best,
Mahdi from Iran
Well ive got the Waldberg & Hirsch letter this morning demanding payment and that they are working on behalf of EU Business Services Ltd. Must admit it is quite convincing !
In the shredder it goes !
Hello everyone
We received this mail today.
FINAL NOTICE
(My Company) is hereby informed that International Directories Group Ltd. has not received payment or confirmation of payment in the amount of EUR 1129,-.
One year description EUR 995,-
Late Payment Fee EUR 99,-
Administration Fee EUR 35,-
Total EUR 1129, – (excluding VAT)*
*No VAT is invoiced for E.C. customers. For customers (enterprisers) from the EU: “VAT moved to entrepreneur”.
Unless you govern yourself accordingly within the following days, the above-mentioned debt will be forwarded on 24/10/2011 to the following debt management and collection company:
Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd.
Herengracht 518, 1017 CC Amsterdam, The Netherlands
In case of non-payment, International Directories Group Ltd. informs you that additional legal fee in the amount of EUR 300, – will be added to the amount already due.
Best regards,
Ms Anne
Credit Department
International Directories Group Ltd.
Phone: +34 91 188 1969
Fax: +34 91 791 9167
anne@internationaldirectoriesgroup.com
I have been receiving these letters by email and fax for some time. Fortunately, I found this site and recognized it as as scam.
I do not have any record or copy of a signed contract or order from the Europe Business Guide.
Yesterday I received a collection letter from Mr. K. Van Ruler of the Waldberg & Hirsch Global Collections Ltd. I will simply file this and not pay.
Question is: do you recommend filing a complaint with the police? You would think that the Interpol should be on this.
BTW, the europeanbusinessguide website is blocked by my NOD32 antivirus, this means that the site tries to download a exe file to the computer upon access.
Ester, just the standard rubbish. Don’t fall for it. Ignore them and when they finally work out you’re not worth bullying, they’ll stop.
Good for you, Yosef – just don’t pay. There’s nothing legal about a misleading contract – even if you did sign it.
Thank goodness for this website. I have been receiving letters demanding money for about 18 months now. They upset me so much I now cant bring myself to open them, so I just send them back with SCAM and return to sender on the envelope. I will not pay, mind you I couldnt as it must now be an enormous mount which I dont have anyway.
Hi Sylvia. I’m glad you’ve found some reassurance here. Keep coming back now and then and check out the new comments from other people who also won’t pay. You might like to joint the Facebook group too:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/55011156703/
Sam! Thanks! By chance I found you. I was also cheated by these bastards. Though I had decided not to pay due to their way of proceeding, knowing I’m not the only one makes me feel much better and stronger.
Thanks once again Sam.
I’m receiving mails a couple of times per week and letters that I don’t answer. I just ignore them.
Best regards from Buenos Aires.
Carlos
Carlos! A pleasure to have provided some evidence to reassure you. Glad to see you over in FB, too.
Received today second invoice. First invoice last year same period. I received a couple of reminder. A couple of threat of Waldberg… Received a couple of reminder from whaldeberg. Received a letter from them once again to close the situation “friendly”. And now once again a second invoice. They never give up. So we don’t give up too.
Thanx for your job Sam. Really appreciated
Hey, guys! i am new in here, but not a stranger in this matter.
I know everything about this scam, I can give every detail about them, how they opperate, who they are, where they are… is not just EUROPE BUSINESS GUIDE, there is also European Trade Register, World Trade Register, World Company Register, EU Business Register and a few others, all under the name of EU Business Services Ltd. or International Directories Group Ltd. They hide behind that FREE UPDATE, as you all know by now, giving explanations like – you should have read the Terms and Conditions of Insertion, updating is available only for those how are already registered(naiv, scared people that have already paid).
They are registered off-shore, in West Indies and British Virgin Islands, but they say that the offices are either in The Netherlands(Utrech), either in Spain(Madrid). This is completlly fals…the office(only one, with a bunch of girls – account managers – working there) is in Timisoara, Romania and it is runned by Cornelius Boot(general manager), Carmen Ispas(office manager), Andreea Bujorescu (office manager), Roxana Bujorescu(office manager).
The prices for the so called advertising/insertion are between 990-995 EUR/year or 995 pounds/year, for listing contacts details and names of companies.
They have never taken anyone to a court and they never will, because the goal of this business is to make money, not to spend money. The famous Debt Collection Company does not exist. K.Van Ruller does not exist. All the letters from the Debt Collection Company are written by Andreea, they are sent from Romania to The Netherlands and then, towards clients.
This is indeed a great scam business… This is my first step in stoping this. There will be others. Hope this will help. Best regards!
Little John
Hi Little John
Thanks for your comment but I already know this information
I think you’ll also find that the names you’ve given aren’t real people; for example, there is no ‘Cornelius Boot’. No surprise; these people don’t want to give away their real identities or risk crazed victims coming after them for revenge. They’ve got far more to fear than their victims have.
As you can see, I use Google to stop cash getting to these scammers. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
Thanks, Stefano. Keep not paying, ok?
Today I received the second invoice. Unfortunately the first invoice was paid last year after getting several e-mails and several threaten letter (will take legal actions if the bill not being paid), then I asked to cancel the invoice for 2nd and 3rd year. But again I received the invoice for 2nd year. They will ignore any e-mails / requirement from you, just chasing the payment. They have no tel numbers, just sending the e-mails and fax or mail the invoices, they will not contact you throughout the year except for collecting the payment. I have never received any service from them until now.
My collegaue in UK helps me to call the company at number +31-203-120-477 (which we contacted the account manager named Ramona last year), and a man received the phone, and said EBG has moved out, and he doesn’t know where they are moving and their contact number. Then my colleague enter EBG on internet and found this page, we were surprised to hear it is a scam and there are so many victims. We deceided to ingnore their e-mails, faxes, calls or mails, we will never pay to them again.
I really don’t know how it happened, I think the government should stop it. Then everybody will ends their worry.
Ah, Iris. Sorry to hear you paid. What a shame.
Next time, go to Google first. No scammer can hide anything any more.
Since you paid once, you can be sure they’ll harass you for more. They will try very hard, because you’re a ‘qualified prospect’ in their eyes. Please resist – and rest assured, they can do NOTHING to you.
Same thing happened to me, from European Trade Register.. They started to call, and send the second reminder.. I’ll not pay. But this worries me anyway.. Can we make a legal complaint about this matter to an international authority?
Best regards from Turkey..
Jaco, there’s no single ‘international authority’ – but the good news is there doesn’t need to be. You alone can do the WORST to them possible – by just not paying.
Yes, I also fell for this trick.
I studied a little bit law in school and I can tell you, this is not legal. In order for this to be legal, it cannot be misleading, as this is what this FREE UPDATE is. It intends to mislead.
And bcos it intends to mislead people, it is an illegal document. And any court of law will not accept this.
Hi Sam
(Copying this over from the other blog entry I just made – I like to be thorough
)
Just spent the last day or two catching up on all the comments…..
Here’s some info pertaining to how they caught me out (the usual making it look like an update, to the extent that they even call the pdf attachment an “update form”, cheeky sods)…..
The original email came from ‘Claudia’, of ‘World Trade Register’ in Utrecht, with a PO Box postal address and the email address info@worldguide2012.com
The invoice I received came from a Ms Joanna Terhus from the domain name EU Business Services (a google search of which led me to this blog and others), with a phone number 0031 205 248 107, which goes to a fax machine on which yuo can leave a message…..although 1st time I called it I spoke with Joanna).
Suffice to say that both the domain names relating to both the emails are blocked, I’ve sent them a “bring it on!” message, the phone number is blocked on our switch and we will mark any letters received as ‘return to sender’.
Utter scumbag thieving morons – this is what passes for ‘work’ for them? Get a life.
Sam – kudos on keeping all this going, you’ve helped a lot!
*wave*
I am in Turkey and got many email, fax and phone calls from World Trade Reg. Shame some people in this world to choose such a wrong way for getting income. How they can feed there family with that kind of money?
Light and Peace
Ali
(Just copying over from the other blog on this topic)
Ha! Exactly as predicted in other comments, they wrote to our company today informing us that it’s “too late” to cancel the first year’s subscription but they’re generously offering to write off the other two years IF we pay up (for the 1st year).
Needless to say, I won’t be replying to them……….
The same story… two years passed and they still ask me to PAY THEM…
Never ever..!! J
Just don’t care of all their E-mails… just press Del. button! )) even don’t waste time for reeding this bullshit..
Regards All.. don’t be afraid of those freaks!
I happened to put the email address of this Dana from European Trade Register on the search engine and found this interesting page. Thank you Sam and everybody! I sent her this link and asked her if her economy was really that bad so she had to do this.
So they do have different “business names”….
Thank you guys!
Hi Aler. Even if your email gets through, the only thing ‘Miss Dana’ will tell you is that you should not believe evil blog sites on the internet telling you false information, but you should believe them because they’re legal etc etc. The only action you can take that makes ANY difference to them is to continue NOT paying them. The only action I suggest that will make a difference to you is to ignore their threats from now on and put them out of your mind – completely.
Yes, will do. From the very beginning I felt their action was not normal and I questioned them and made it every clear that I was not going to pay because it was not an “order” at all. Then your site explains everything. Thank you! And I have notified my colleague if they would ever receive phone call from “Ms. Dana”, they will put her on hold forever.
Gee, they have been playing this trick worldwidly! Just hope everybody would see this page and be aware of these scammers.
HELP!! Someone signed up to them in 2009, but no one knows who and they won’t send us any information about who it was and how they done it. Problem is, we have already paid for the last two years and don’t have a foot to stand on. This is our last payment for them and they are demanding it, how could someone sign up for it and not research the company first?! I only found this yesterday, confirming my doubts about the company. But now they want money, and I’m only a little person in a big company, I can’t persuade them not to pay it! HELP!!!
Hi Elle – I’ve replied to you by email. Sorry to hear that you already paid twice – unfortunately, that guarantees that they will bully you harder for a third payment. Like I’ve said in the email, you don’t need to pay. Take time to read all the comments here and do your Google research on this and other identical scams (i.e. Expo Guide) and you should be reassured.
Greetings!!!
I am dealing with these gangsters for 4 years (2008), having received thousands of emails, faxes and letters, but haven’t paid and wont paid a dime!!!
Today I received a call from some Spanish lawyer called Mrs Rodriguez. She tried to scare me off in order to pay…she even told me that they have received a new completed registration form by us on 2011…I told her to send me in original all EBD registration/representation/tax payments/social insurance payments docs and get me in touch with their legal representative to discuss this issue…of course she got pissed off and became really rude…
Then I asked her what kind of lawyer, for such a serious issues, gets in touch by phone with her customer’s opponent and with such an attitude…she got furious and I really enjoyed it!
Hi Christos.
You received a call from someone paid by EBG to bully you in your language 
Glad you’re having fun with them!
“I received a call from some Spanish lawyer”. Lols no, you didn’t.
Now Ms. Dana from Europe Trade Register is adding US$300 legal fee to my “debt”. Are they going to chase after me for years?
Hi Aier – the simple answer is ‘yes – they probably will send you mails / emails for years’. That’s just how they work so expect it and don’t worry. Certainly don’t engage with them in any way.