ICAA Ltd Cyprus: If you’ve received a demand from these people..

Is ICAA Ltd Cyprus demanding money from you on behalf of Expo Guide?

If so, you might like to read this thread first.

Don’t forget to read the 400+ comments too.  Hopefully you’ll be reassured that you’re the victim of a global scam. This means they can’t take you to court in any country because THEY are the ones who would be sent to prison :-)

It also means that the ‘ICAA Ltd Cyprus’ acting on Expo Guide’s behalf to try to bully money out of you doesn’t actually exist.  Nor does ‘Fobble International’ or any of the other names they pretend are debt collection agencies.

Their ‘website’ is simply a front to make you think they are a real business and out to get you.  Don’t be fooled.

So to beat them at their own game, I wrote this post to beat them to the top of Google for their own (fake) name. Lols.  See the results below.  Now, anyone receiving threats from them will go to Google, type in ‘ICAA Cyprus Ltd’ and find this post BEFORE they find their dummy website.

That, by the way, is how you use Google to get the truth in front of the lies.

Comments

  1. ELAINE NADIN says:

    Hello Sam,
    Thanks for phoning my husband back and putting his mind at rest. We really appreciate the trouble you have gone to in making people (like us) aware of this awful scam.
    Kindest regards
    Elaine
    p.s. X

  2. Peter Nadin says:

    Hello Sam

    Came across your website this morning following my reaction to the
    final demand e-mail from ICAA Ltd Cyprus, and then the same day a
    phone call from Barry Walter Senior Credit Manager ICAA Ltd Cyprus,
    acting on behalf of Expo Guide.

    Cutting to the chase! I was just about to take the time to reply by letter this morning to ICAA Ltd, when I came across your website, and the subsequent conversation that we had.
    What a relief to hear this is not for real.
    This has been going on now since 24th Nov 2008 and the Expo Guide File is now 1 cm thick with correspondance and final demands.

    I am eternally grateful and applaud you for your proactiveness in helping other people like me who fall for this type of Scam, quite innocently.

    Peter Nadin

  3. Sam Deeks says:

    You are most welcome, Elaine

  4. Sam Deeks says:

    Hi Peter – glad it helped to reassure you. Since I first posted about Expo Guide a lot of people have visited and been increasingly reassured by the various comments and research.

    Interestingly, when I first posted, it was primarily from a position of warning people off paying stupid money for a totally unrealistic promise of extra business & Google visibility (as I was de-frocking quite a few bulls**t online business directories at the time). It quickly became apparent this wasn’t just a case of really, really bad value for money but a global, 10 year old scam with a dozen recorded variants (and many more mutating at any moment in time).

    Since then, I’ve left it mainly to the feedback / experience of the hundreds of people who have posted here to pass judgment on the sort of scam they’ve fallen victim to.

    For the last two years, I’ve been waiting for even a single satisfied Expo Guide ‘customer’ to come here and say they don’t think Expo Guide is a scam. It hasn’t happened, of course. I’ve also been waiting to hear from anyone who has been taken to any court anywhere for non-payment of an Expo Guide demand. That also hasn’t happened. All I’ve had is a couple of threats from people presumably connected with Expo Guide angry with what I’ve done and a couple of insiders contact me to confirm exactly what I’d always suspected about Expo Guide (and ‘ICAA’s') simply, abusive bullying psychology and how they convert that into profit.

    Enjoy your worry-free evening :-)

  5. Catherine says:

    Hello,
    Thank you so much for sharing your experiences everyone. I just receive an email form ICAA, ltd this morning. I’m in the same case you all are with Expo guide. This started in Summer 2008. I will just ignore their email.
    Thanks again.
    Catherine

  6. Alex says:

    Dear Sam,
    I was just contacted from this Cyprus co.
    I did not pay a penny so far, and it will stay that way.
    I also know 20 people who will do the same.
    Thank you for your effort, so everyone in the world can know the bussiness of expo-guide

    Thanks a lot,
    Alex

  7. Cathy says:

    I got the e-mail from ICAA this Tuesday, I am afraid very much, and try to explain something with them. Thanks for your sharing, Sam. The one thing I have to do is to igonre their e-mail and didn’t contact them any more, right ? Or may I have to do something to cancel the order as they said ?

  8. Sam Deeks says:

    From what I’ve seen, Cathy, ICAA and Expo Guide are part of the same operation. An ICAA ‘insider’ told me a lot about how it works. It’s all designed to scare you into thinking they can and will take you to some court action in your country when in fact, all the evidence shows, they can’t and they won’t. The only thing to fear in this scam is fear itself – and that’s how easy it is for them to make money.

  9. I Read the small print says:

    Interesting! My post has been removed because I pointed out these people have been naive and stupid? hmm I wonder what yuou’re agenda really is?

  10. Sam Deeks says:

    I didn’t remove your post at all, I published it. I think you posted it on another post about ICAA. I have no agenda – but you CLEARLY do.

    http://www.mukaumedia.co.uk/international-credit-assessment-agency-icaa-cyprus/

    So you can apologise if you like (but I doubt you will) :)

    *****
    Later note: Of course, he didn’t. He just continued to rant about how it served everyone right for not being more cautious and try to make out that I had some dirty agenda for helping people.

    His ‘line’ was almost word-for-word the same as expressed in various communications people receive from Expo Guide. And he was also commenting from Cyprus – you won’t be surprised to learn.

  11. Great to find your side after entering in Google “ICAA Cyprus”. They (EXPO Guide) try to fraud money for years. Our laywer and official staff from the International Funkausstellung (IFA Berlin) informed us in the past that this is a fraud and they will lose any court case. So we ignored all their letters.
    Now got the fax from ICAA signed by a person named Markus Becker and…
    … happliy finding your site.

    Good job!
    Thanks

  12. Sam Deeks says:

    Thank for the comment Alexander, glad you found the information helpful

  13. Patrick says:

    Thank you very much to advise this important information. It can help many company to fall into the trap of international scam.

  14. Sam Deeks says:

    Hi Patrick – I think you meant “help many company NOT to fall into the trap…” :) – but thank you, and thanks for commenting.

  15. Cari says:

    Thank you very much for all the info provided here. I totally agree that people need to pay way more attention to what they sign, but that does not give any person or company the right to scam others, and that is what this EXPO company is doing. They are trying to scare business and people into just paying this stupid fee and companies do it because they don’t want to deal with any credit issues. We will not be wasting any more of our time listening to anything anyone from either of these “so called” companies has to say. Everyone has a right to profit and make a living, but people also have an obligation to be decent. It will be a wonderful day when people like this have the tables turned on them.

  16. Sam Deeks says:

    Cari, sadly the tables probably won’t ever be turned on these people. The best we can hope for is to just keep intervening to cut them off from the cash. Google is our friend here, enabling us to raise awareness, reassure worried people and show that no-one has ever been (and will never be) taken to court by any of these scammers.

  17. Vicky Stylianou says:

    Hi, came across your website after searching for info. on the company ICAA Management ltd. They are advertising for employment on a Cypriot website, so I just wanted to say well done for posting this information!

    http://www.jobincyprus.com/english/display_job.php?job_id=99327&search=YToyOntzOjEzOiJicm93c2VfY2F0X2lkIjtzOjM6IjIwNSI7czo2OiJzZWFyY2giO3M6MzoieWVzIjt9&start=

  18. Sam Deeks says:

    Vicky, thanks for that. Business must still be good for them, then. No surprise. Glad you found our information and it made you think twice – you REALLY don’t want that shit on your CV for the future.

  19. Susanne Oberem says:

    Hi Sam and all EG/ICAA-haters,

    since summer 2009, we´ve been chased by EG and since Sept 2011 ICAA has been involved. Thank you very much for all the information. It makes us feel a little realeased. However, since some weeks, we receive phone calls from ICAA and last week we received a fax with another threat that they will take further legal steps.
    How shall we deal with the phone calls? Just tell them we don´t discuss anything with them? Or just say nothing?

    Does anyone has an idea when it will stop? How many LAST payment reminders and LAST offers will they finally send without making themselves even more ridiculous?

    Thanks a lot.
    Susanne

  20. Sue Gowans says:

    My oragnisation has been chased for months for money from these people. From what I understand about them they are able to add their literture to legitimate correspondence from organisations and a colleague of mine signed their form in error. I never had any intention of paying it as I suspected it was a scam. and I am please that your web site has confirmed it. Many thanks

  21. Matt Leger says:

    After receiving letters claiming we signed a contract from Expo Guide, I received a call and email from a Daniella from ICAA. I knew that Expo Guide was a scam, but to get bogus collection agencies from Europe to hound you for fake companies, what a shame!

  22. David Pelling says:

    Yes I also got caught. Did a big exhibition in the UK then went on Holiday. On returning found this letter suggesting a free entry in an expo guide related to the exhibition. Having lots to do after the Holiday I inadvertently signed it and sent it off. FREE!!!!
    Since then my office manager found something i the UK about this scam and I have sent a letter to them informing them that we will not be paying. I have also contacted the Trading standards in the UK.Your blog has allowed me to strengthen my position as I have now received 3 demands for payment with “interest” added. I guess I will shortly hear form ICAA Ltd.
    I am happy to “sit it out” but I just hope that all I read is right and that no court action will take place.

  23. Sam Deeks says:

    David – thanks for commenting. Like I’ve said before: spend some time looking for one single, credible (and I don’t mean ‘Roland’) example of someone – anyone – who has ever reported being taken to any court by these people…. you won’t find it. Let THAT be your reassurance (along with all the stories here and elsewhere). You don’t need to take my word for it. I’m just an interested bystander :-)

  24. Bill Filek says:

    Thank you for the info. I am in Canada and this collection agency is actually calling me from Cyprus with threats of legal action if I don’t pay.

    I thank you for your insight.

    Bill

  25. Sam Deeks says:

    You’re welcome Bill. Look at it from their point of view: it’s a phone game. Costs nothing. They sit there safely in Cyprus and play psychological games with defenceless people far away. If they do it well enough, they get a percentage of the €980 ‘settlement’ they scam out of scared people. Better than working for a living; probably even quite addictive. Long distance bullying.

  26. Maria says:

    Dear Sam,

    last year I wrote at your forum that I have been a victim too. Imagine that I didn’t know anything for them and I paid them from my own salary the first invoice because I signed their “free” papers..They continued to send me invoices but fortunately I came across your forum and I realised how foolish I have been…This month they continue to send us emails from ICAA (the fake company in Cyprus) and I do not answer them of course. Before ten minutes a person called James Danien called me and said me to pay them..I got so angry and told him not to bother us again..He said that this case will be solved at the courts..I’m fed up with them…What can I do for not bothering me again?HOW STUPID THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. Sam Deeks says:

    Hi Maria, thanks for commenting.

    I was sorry to hear you paid the first instalment. Of course, that tells them to keep bullying you which is why you still get calls. In their eyes, you’re a hot prospect.

    I try to advise people to put themselves in the scammers’ shoes. If more people could do that, then fewer would pay. And you’d see that they’re anything BUT stupid. Their technique works – partly because, even NOW, they are bothering you so much that you ask what can you do to stop them? So long as you’re bothered, they’ve got you.

    Sometimes people take offense at this advice – as if I’m not sympathetic enough and I do apologise if it seems a bit direct. But you have to wake up to the fact that these people have honed this process to an art and predicted (accurately) each one of your natural reactions to their attack in order to turn it against YOU and to THEIR advantage.

    As I’ve said many times before, they will only stop when YOU stop sending the ‘I’m bothered’ signals – and, with all kindness and respect, from your comment that isn’t yet.

  28. Maria says:

    Thanks Sam,

    so the only thing you advice me to do is to stop answering the phonecalls? I do not answer their emails.

  29. Sam Deeks says:

    You’ve two choices Maria:

    1) Answer their calls (and let them frighten you into paying)

    2) Don’t answer their calls (and wait for them to take you to court).

    It’s up to you: all I can say is that there is no evidence anywhere to indicate they have ever taken anyone to court in this situation. I know why this is – but the problem is that you don’t yet. And that’s why their scam works.

    Sorry to sound unsympathetic but I can’t say it any clearer that this. You have to understand this: I know you’re scared. So do they. The difference is that THEY set out to make you scared to take your money off you.

  30. Maria says:

    No Sam, I m afraid you misunderstood me..I know that they are fake. I know that they do not have the power to do anythin. The victims are millions..I just posted to ask what can I do to stop their threads..and I realise that you advise me to do nothing. Thanks and sorry..

  31. Sam Deeks says:

    Hi Maria, no worries.
    The quick answer is that it appears there is nothing you can do to stop their threats in the short term.

    I believe that the quickest way to stop their threats in the longer term is to ignore them completely. They WILL eventually put their limited resources into ‘prospects’ they believe are more likely to pay than you.

    Having said that, you can be sure that they will periodically try to ‘re-activate’ you again using their least expensive method (mailing) – particularly since they’ve already scored a success with you in the past. If you show ANY response to that mailing (even “I know you’re a horrible scam, go away”), you can be sure they will once again step up their investment in you (i.e. they will put real people onto phoning you to bully you harder).

    Good luck!

  32. Maria says:

    Sam thanks for all..I will continue to ignore them.What a global scam!!!!!! It’s a pity that after all these victims they are still free to act…

  33. Demoscience says:

    Dear Deeks,

    I am in China, we also are suffering from ICAA Cyprus. I have never reply any emails to them. They keep on sending me emails. Firstly, they request us to pay for two years USD3714 with interest for deferred to pay, and they offer us an option to pay for two years insertion at USD3,148.00 and today they give us a new offer for one year USD1,574. 00, they called us and threaten us to put this case into court. I have told all my staff just don’t reply to them, don’t answer their phones, Just ignore them as they are cheaters. I think they will keep on sending us email. I will put their email address into reject list of our email box. But before that, I will wait for their more emails to see how they will act.

    Thank you Mr. Deeks, I can sleep well now.

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